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		<title>By: jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul:

You make a lot of sense.

The whole thing seems weird, but Bosh does come out smelling pretty good.

-- Jorge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul:</p>
<p>You make a lot of sense.</p>
<p>The whole thing seems weird, but Bosh does come out smelling pretty good.</p>
<p>&#8211; Jorge.</p>
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		<title>By: Domain Names as Property Subject to Creditor Claims – Bosh v &#8230; &#124; Arabic names</title>
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		<dc:creator>Domain Names as Property Subject to Creditor Claims – Bosh v &#8230; &#124; Arabic names</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] concern convergent on internet and profession issues. He blogs.   Here is the original:  Domain Names as Property Subject to Creditor Claims – Bosh v &#8230;   Share and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Keating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jorge,  The issue was not whether Bosh would be a better owner but rather did Zavala have property that could be attached?  Bosh could just have easily have taken a car or a piece of real estate for all the court cared.  For me it was interesting that the court actually allowed the transfer.  As noted in the terrific article above California law only permits a judgment creditor to obtain an order that the property be turned over to the court for sale and the money be used to satisfy the judgment.  In the case of an intangible such as a domain, the Code of Civil Procedure requires a 2-step process - 1st to levy and attach the property and 2nd to petition the court for an order that it be sold.  I see the Bosh decision as an appropriate result but at the expense of not having followed the law.  There is a great post on this at http://www.digitalmedialawyerblog.com/2009/10/the_domain_name_as_collateral.html which deals with the problems of domains as collateral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jorge,  The issue was not whether Bosh would be a better owner but rather did Zavala have property that could be attached?  Bosh could just have easily have taken a car or a piece of real estate for all the court cared.  For me it was interesting that the court actually allowed the transfer.  As noted in the terrific article above California law only permits a judgment creditor to obtain an order that the property be turned over to the court for sale and the money be used to satisfy the judgment.  In the case of an intangible such as a domain, the Code of Civil Procedure requires a 2-step process &#8211; 1st to levy and attach the property and 2nd to petition the court for an order that it be sold.  I see the Bosh decision as an appropriate result but at the expense of not having followed the law.  There is a great post on this at <a href="http://www.digitalmedialawyerblog.com/2009/10/the_domain_name_as_collateral.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitalmedialawyerblog.com/2009/10/the_domain_name_as_collateral.html</a> which deals with the problems of domains as collateral.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venkat:

Great summary of the issues!

I find the outcome to be completely preposterous, but IANAL.

Here&#039;s an analogy: What if you gave the police a tip that helped catch a thief who had been robbing homes in your neighborhood. Should the judge grant you all the robber&#039;s loot? And should the judge allow you, one of the victims, to be responsible for return the loot to the rightful owners?

It&#039;s just weird to me that the court decided that Bosh would be a better owner for all those athlete&#039;s domains than Zavala was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venkat:</p>
<p>Great summary of the issues!</p>
<p>I find the outcome to be completely preposterous, but IANAL.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an analogy: What if you gave the police a tip that helped catch a thief who had been robbing homes in your neighborhood. Should the judge grant you all the robber&#8217;s loot? And should the judge allow you, one of the victims, to be responsible for return the loot to the rightful owners?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just weird to me that the court decided that Bosh would be a better owner for all those athlete&#8217;s domains than Zavala was.</p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Thanks for the comment.  I haven&#039;t done an exhaustive search in Virginia, but I do know that people seem to still cite Umbro.  I&#039;ll have to take a look.

Venkat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.  I haven&#8217;t done an exhaustive search in Virginia, but I do know that people seem to still cite Umbro.  I&#8217;ll have to take a look.</p>
<p>Venkat</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Berryhill</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Berryhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update in this vexing area.

One thing - it is perfectly normal for courts in different jurisdictions to disagree.  I&#039;d be curious to know whether Umbro was the last word on this in Virginia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update in this vexing area.</p>
<p>One thing &#8211; it is perfectly normal for courts in different jurisdictions to disagree.  I&#8217;d be curious to know whether Umbro was the last word on this in Virginia.</p>
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